Friday, January 30, 2009

They don't like it hot

There's sort of a vicious cycle of silliness going on about global warming and the day to day weather. It certainly started with proponents of warming (from Al Gore down) exaggerating the significance of particular weather events as being signs of global warming. The skeptics rubbished this, but then when the weather starts to turns cold, they start doing the same trick. Now that Melbourne and Adelaide are melting in (possibly) 1 in a 100 year heat, it's back to some on the AGW side (notably, Penny Wong) to claim it is "consistent" with warming. Which sets Andrew Bolt and the like back to the "no, it's only weather" argument again. (Until next winter, probably, when he may swing back to a run of cold weather being evidence of no warming.)

It's also particularly ironic that Andrew Bolt names his post on this "Wong wrong to pick that cherry", when his repeated claim that the warming has stopped since 1998 has long been criticised as the biggest cherry pick of all.

Everyone should just repeat the mantra: "Day to day weather is not climate. Day to day whether is not climate."

That said, would it be wrong for those on the AGW to at least say "well look, this is not proof itself of AGW, but this is what it will be like for longer according to the predictions of the vast majority of climate scientists." ? (Wong semi-qualifies her statements by saying it is "consistent with", but in my books that is still being a bit tricky. If she rephrased her comments in the way I suggest, then it would be completely unobjectionable, while still making the connection with AGW as a policy issue.)

2 comments:

Unknown said...

This it total drivel - "the vast majority of climate scientists"

Have you done a poll? You are making it up.

Bolt looks at the global temperature data (FWIW) since 1998 as they have flatlined since them, with some showing a cooling trend.

So if CO2 is a climate forcer (ie "pollution") and has been consistently increasing, why do not temperatures keep rising?

Why is the antarctic ice at record levels?

Why is the arctic ice at the long term average?

This totally falsifies AGW/MMGW.

In fact it is a total scam.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/anthropogenic-global-warming-the-greatest-fraud-in-history/

Steve said...

William, I would refer you to Skeptical Science in my blogroll for a start, but I strongly suspect that you are impervious to the arguments put up to rebut the "common sense" anti-AGW arguments you cite. Go read it anyway.